Here lately I find myself just clicking on
WRN and letting it go as I surf the net or what not. Radio Netherlands was on last night presenting an interview with PNAC signer Francis Fukuyama. I knew that Fukuyama had broken ranks with his neocon buddies but I didn't know about the comments he made about the PNAC letters and, in particular, about Bill Kristol.
The interview can be found here. Fukuyama said that "nation building" was a bunch of horse droppings and that it was something "Americans don't do very well."
Then starting about 14:30 in the audio... The interviewer, Chris Kijne, asks:
"In 1998 you co-signed a letter to then President Clinton asking for the toppling of Saddam Hussein if necessary by force, if necessary, without the consent of the United Nations. One could argue that you got what you asked for."
Please continue
Fukuyama then goes on to talk about how problematic an invasion would be adding that he wrote
"a number of things in Europe prior to the war that expressed all these reservations." He goes onto say it was quite a dilemma breaking ranks with people to whom he was quite close.
In regard to his reservations, Kijne then asked "couldn't you see that coming you were signatory of PNAC" which was a conservative think tank and, "they issued a paper in 2000 which was rather belligerent, which was focusing very much on military buildup. I mean, you should have seen the signs before, shouldn't you?"
Fukuyama then says:
"Ah, I, aah, maybe that's right. Certainly by signing that letter...this was basically Bill Kristol and a fax machine. So every time he had an issue he sent around a letter and asked you to sign it and I certainly didn't think that I was signing onto the whole of his agenda."
IT WAS LIKE A GD JOKE!! Just little Billy Kristol up the street playing with his daddy's fax machine!! But Fukuyama wrote some stuff
in Europe that covered his ass.... WTF!!!
More CYA, he then goes back into how bad a job Bush has done and that he didn't think that was foreseeable. These guys are driving us to WW3 and they couldn't tell from any two words out of Bush's mouth that he was inept and in over his head? Lord help us. It goes on...
Then about 29:00 - Kijne asks Fukuyama how far he has come with his views and mentions again the fact that he signed the PNAC letter.
Fukuyama's reply...
"Well, again I think you are over emphasizing the importance of my signing a couple of letters, because I never really bought most of the agenda that project represented."
Did anyone hear about ANY PNAC people saying the letters they SIGNED were all a bunch of hogwash before the war???
Sorry if this is old news, I never watched this guy when I saw him on USA TV - changed the channel...sheesh.
The Radio Netherlands show then plays an interview with Chomsky from Dec 2005...
I have an urgent request:
Would somebody PLEASE unplug Bill Kristol's fax machine before he kills us all, if he hasn't already...please...?